Tues. Misc.
Today Hennig and Bruce Jackson added to the 1/23 summary, which I'll publish when completed. It's interesting. A few misc. observations for today:
1. Fairgrounds breakdowns: by the reports, guess it'll be a cold day in hell before anything other than the racing surface causes a breakdown.
2. Bill's comment. Bill took the trouble to type in an extensive comment on the 1/25 post. Txs!
4. Slow day galloping speed: Derby training videos show these trainers doing slow work in :18s to :20 even :22/f. Bill tacked a comment on to the 1/23 post that stakes horses get little out of :18s on slow days. While I'd disagree-- slightly--to me :18s are moving a bit(but then Bill with his heart monitor would be able to pin point it precisely, eh!)--the comment highlights my suspicions that in these large stables something is going on during slow days that's kept hidden. Reason: for myself, I am unable to explain these amazing performances--Lawyer Ron in the Woodward e.g. coming from 4-5f breezing once a week except by steroids.
5. Legends of Racing: Anxious to see how this turns out. Unwell, I'm thinking. Can Baffert make up for the other two.
6. Danger down the road: Ocean Downs Standardbred track in Maryland being closed by its own Casino.
7. RR just discovered North American Trainer magazine online!
8. NTRA: The Gathering The Wind blog nipping at the heels of Alex Waldrop. The natives are restless!
Training:
Mon: 1/26 in 15 degree weather we limit to riderless work on a powdery surface . I.e. we declined to take Nob up on his boast that he could ride down to 15 degrees, for today at leats. Powdery surface hard and bumpy underneath. The horses were driven an intermittent 4 miles snappy with some bursts. 3 year old drops out again. We're thinking: sore feet, airway passage problems, lazy. Yet to be determined.
Tues: 1/27: 15 degrees and wet. With good weather blowing in, we'll take this one off. Thus, being able to work yesterday--big. Difference between this year and last two--much less water!
1. Fairgrounds breakdowns: by the reports, guess it'll be a cold day in hell before anything other than the racing surface causes a breakdown.
2. Bill's comment. Bill took the trouble to type in an extensive comment on the 1/25 post. Txs!
4. Slow day galloping speed: Derby training videos show these trainers doing slow work in :18s to :20 even :22/f. Bill tacked a comment on to the 1/23 post that stakes horses get little out of :18s on slow days. While I'd disagree-- slightly--to me :18s are moving a bit(but then Bill with his heart monitor would be able to pin point it precisely, eh!)--the comment highlights my suspicions that in these large stables something is going on during slow days that's kept hidden. Reason: for myself, I am unable to explain these amazing performances--Lawyer Ron in the Woodward e.g. coming from 4-5f breezing once a week except by steroids.
5. Legends of Racing: Anxious to see how this turns out. Unwell, I'm thinking. Can Baffert make up for the other two.
6. Danger down the road: Ocean Downs Standardbred track in Maryland being closed by its own Casino.
7. RR just discovered North American Trainer magazine online!
8. NTRA: The Gathering The Wind blog nipping at the heels of Alex Waldrop. The natives are restless!
Training:
Mon: 1/26 in 15 degree weather we limit to riderless work on a powdery surface . I.e. we declined to take Nob up on his boast that he could ride down to 15 degrees, for today at leats. Powdery surface hard and bumpy underneath. The horses were driven an intermittent 4 miles snappy with some bursts. 3 year old drops out again. We're thinking: sore feet, airway passage problems, lazy. Yet to be determined.
Tues: 1/27: 15 degrees and wet. With good weather blowing in, we'll take this one off. Thus, being able to work yesterday--big. Difference between this year and last two--much less water!
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Exactly my point RR-
18's are moving a bit to you and to many of the claimers I see, but to elite performers it's not moving much at all. It's all relative to ability.
18's might require 90% intensity from a 5k horse, but closer to 70% intensity from a million dollar 'freak'.
The fact that mostly all athletes, from Derby hopefuls to Beulah bottom-feeders, gallop approx the same speed on their 'slow' days is a problem.
The workload (speed) should be customized to the quality of the athlete. Beulah boys may improve off 18's, but Triple Crown hopefuls may need 14's for the same effect.
The mere fact that everyone can ride a 2:00 lick is a perfect example of this. Why not a 2:30, or a 3:15, or a 4:05?
Ivers crept up on this with his 'long to short' intervals with increasingly faster times. I too, like you, am not sold on the fact that 3 'heats' are needed for optimal performance either, by the way - but the progressive nature of the workloads is very important.
What Mr. Ivers was missing, however, was an objective measure of when a horse was ready to move from a 4:00 to a 3:45 pace.
your comment spurred me into considering the heart monitor again. if the operation moves forward of course. the use of it in this sense--what is the horse getting out of the slow gallop program seems very significant considering the % of slow galloping vis a vis breezing in USA! then, thinking as i type, whoops, I'm doing preston burch. slow days for him were only to rest the horse. Bill--i'm also thinking your stuff might interest some young guy starting out with an interest in physiology. i'd like to see what you and such a person might accomplish with a horse.
The first thing I realized was that 'slow' gallops comprised over 80% of training, moreso when racing starts and breezing stops.
Believe it or not, underperforming horses often need to slow down their gallops even further - allowing their internal systems time to adapt in response.
When that adaptation has taken place, they can then be let out/sped up a notch.
I'm gonna email you my Trainer magazine article right now for your review, it won't be published until April.
A human marathoner for instance only trains at or above race pace roughly 25% of his training miles.
Stamina is best developed at submaximal efforts, but only in a fairly narrow range of heart rate intensities.
bill--new email is fb0252@yahoo.com. my niece just started going out with the ncaa 800 meter champ from a few years back. he's telling me how he trains--talks about over distance and underdistance and over speed and under speed work. If the blog ever get's to performance I hope to look at all this closely!
Will re-send now...
I've been trying to find middle distance guys around here, but no luck. 100m sprinters only.
I always wondered if an 800m guy ever did any continuous running much over that distance?
Bill--after racing starts Hunter says his primary workout is 600 meters faster than race speed.
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